Dedicated Ignorance: Pastor Ray Hagins

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    • My new books are Religion and Race in the Era of Barrack Obama, our first African American President, And An Ethnic Profile, form U.S. Air Force Blue to SFPD Blue. All I can say is way to go Dr. Hagin

    • Even Satan knows the Bible, he knows it better than most of us and he uses it to confuse even the elect, Like Ray Hegans does. And Barak Obama-nation is the son of perdition. The Bible tells us when you see the son of perdition in the holy place, run for the hills.

      • One should never attempt to defend ignorance.
        As for MY brotha Ray, to speak ill of him, on account of ones ignorance, I will go a step further by saying, ones hatred of self, makes one looks like a complete fool among those of us who are Conscious, having Right Knowledge.

        Not one of you spewing this hatred towards this brotha has ever sat face to face with him. Not one of you have spent a dime to visit Afrika, researching what He, I and Others have. But you have the nerve to sit there in your stupidity, and ignorance attacking this brotha.

        I am the right one to step to with your foolishness, I, unlike Ray, do NOT consider all those with a black face, as MY brotha or sista. Many of you are true evil beings, and enemies of MY people.

        I am more than qualified to deal with you.

        Until you have researched what you claim you know, producing the FACTS, the EVIDENCE, supporting these racist, European lies, you have been brainwashed to believe, what you believe is meaningless. You can believe something and be 100% wrong, period.

        You speak of the bible, but can’t mention one of author name who wrote any of the books, name one.
        So, I would advise you, sit down, and first deal with that white slave masters name you have, JOHN, you need to clear that matter up first. This applies to all you NEGROS (a person who needs to grow) walking around with this white slave masters name.

      • I think once again it is important to understand that, white men did not write the bible. neither did the black man, although he more tha. Likely had more to do with it, the Tribe of Gad and such. But, beyond that, I think it’s impoetant to understand what exactly, the authors were trieng to convey, and through what language, be it figuritive, allegorical, rarely literal but evident in places. And then we should all strive to take that understanding(if one has it, and if not should back up and get it, don’t worry we’ll wait.) and then compare that to what is beig conveyed throughout the churches, cell groups, evangelic ministies and such, and make a decision(i say ‘decision’ beccuase this is more powerful than your ‘opinion’ because it implies action)
        And then move forward in the revelation that you recieve from that. it will be life altering I assure you, if you are a Christian. If not, a christian, it will certainly make you sympathetic and understanding I believe. remember, if there is one thing the Word of God did above everything, and that is, it brought the tribes, TOGETHER. And what does the word, through anyones translation bring us in the Chrurch?
        Jesus did bring a sword, he did not come for peace, but that ‘sword’ what was it? What did it consist of? This is so important if you trully want to know the truth, and move forward in it, to actually see it i. The ‘real world’ before your eyes, you must begine to understand where Christ is taking us. forget about these neo conservative evangalist who are only confusing people and dividing them in the wrong way that division is meant by in the bible. forget them. Remeber how Christ warned how peop,e should come to him? As children. That not meant to be naive, but to be simple and pure in understanding, that does not implie that one will be biased does it? It doenst implie that this group should dislike that group because of doctrine does it? Does it? No, my friends, it does not. So lets go back to the beginning and study, fundementally what all this means, and the political reasons that formed the bible as well. There is So much, but the best thing for everyone is to return to Square one, which is…….Unity, through the perfecrt Love that only Christ can teach, and NO ONE ELSE. Once that it is established, you can congregate with whomever you like, and it will never matter, because wherever you are, you family of God or society, will come to the Truth in The end, no matter what, but if no one starts and begins and continues in the work who will? So, let’s begin. Peace and Gods true peace apon you.

      • Hotep

        The STORIES put forth in the bible are just that, stories, and are meaningless if these STORIES cannot be supported with EVIDENCE.

        Someone had to put pen to paper in order to white the bible. I am calling the bible a book of LIES. Again, I challenge anyone, prove me wrong, tell me, WHO WROTE THE BIBLE? Give me the EVIDENCE that just ONE of these European clowns mentioned in this bible existed? Come on christians, you all believe in these lies.
        You believe in something you cannot intelligently support with facts/EVIDENCE. Aside from what you read in this book of lies, and trickology, written by racist Europeans, you have nothing to stand on.

        I call the authors of the bible racist, for they stole the TRUE STORY from THE AFRIKANS, rewrote it. Stepped all over the truth, with their racist manufactured lies, creating names of people who never lived, events which never happened. Then sold the world the greatest lie ever told, HIS-STORY.
        The Bible is a book of fictional stories. Not one European mentioned in the bible existed, including your European influenced jesus.
        Whenever ignorant religious folk are challenged to produce the EVIDENCE supporting what they believe, you can.not, nor can anyone reading this. All you have to hold onto is your complete arrogance and ignorance.

        When challenged, reciting words from the bible, in an attempt to validate what you believe, is NOT evidence, its what you believe, nothing more. To all christians reading this, for the record, when you believe something, it means YOU DON”T KNOW. Again, you can believe something and be 100% wrong. You Afrikan, calling yourselves christians, sit here defending these racist European religious lies, but not one of you know your own story, if you did, never would you show such love, honor, and respect for these racist Europeans who gave you christianity, via slavery. Before slavery, there were no Afrikan christians in any part of the world, and there were no bibles present in our lives.
        I have given this more energy than it deserves. I have no interest in going back and forth with Afrikans who wish to stay ignorant, loving their European slave master more than self and kind, to you I say, you are an enemy of truth, and are doing the work of the evil ones.

        Hetepu

      • You see,
        You present a very very typical argument to augment the fact that the things you are reading inthe bible, you do not understand. Be it by any perception that I advised that you should, allegoric, figurative, and at times literal. You, read Jesus turned water into wine, and have no idea what has jst happened or is being conveyed. You simply take a absolutist stand point through a literal perception and miss everything. Now, mabye that is just your lot in life. Mabye that is all God intends for you recieve. Or you could have been spiritualy stunted by eroneous teachings, which led you to avoidence methods and such. But there is a perfect resounding message that is being conveyed from Genesis to Revelation, and it revolves around a simplistic command. This command is conveyed through every single religion on the planet, to only prove further that God is in control, and nothing can escape His will, therefore making it perfect. This is the EVIDENCE that you are seeking. So, then you say that names in the bible are ficticious? I counter by asking you, since you have read all these names, can you give the definition of them? If you could, you certainly would not be having this aurgument. There is a much more profound powere in the word of God than you seem to be understanding. Thats the thing with metaphysics, phsycology, and mystic teachings,; they can explain something, but they can’t convey God’s eternal, and very real message, for whatever the age.
        now you obviously have severe biased issues, with certai. Cultures for reasons that, since you were not sold into slavery by your own people and sent off to a foreign land to slave for the remainder of your life, by the way this was a trade that was worldwide, Asians has asian slaves, whites, had white slaves, as well as black ones, it just depended on where you lived at the time. And, it was England who banned slavery first, America was the the last, and There are places throughout africa that still do it; but anyways, you need to be grateful and take the time to trully understand what is being covyed in the bible, and you should start by knowing the meaning of the names of the people you say never exsited, because they did, however, hebrew, and aramaic sounds abit different in Greek or English wouldn’t it? Yacob- James, Miriam- Mary, Yeshua- Jesus, Jochanan-John, Mattai….that’s right Mathew for short, Ah yes, Shimon Kepha- Peter. So you see you can debate, with symantics all you want, but you can never succeed in thinking you have it figured out and other western blacks are lost, because quite simply sir, you are the one that is lost, you don’t even know what you are reading in order to say anything about it to the contrary, it would be quite humorous if were not such serious and sensitve issue, which is something I think you should consider, get back to a desire for unity, and move forward sir.

      • For the record. I will not waste another minute of my time or energy, going back and forth with you ignorant, brainwashed, programmed, hateful, arrogant, NEGRO (a people who need to grow) christians. Who I consider the true enemy of Afrikan people. You do the bidding for these racist Europeans, by indoctrinating our Afrikan children with this racist, religious BS. Having common sense, you brain dead (non thinkers) Negros can’t think for yourselves.

        Not one of you addressed any of the points I made very clear in my last post, another clear sign of your stupidity.

        Stupid is, as stupid does.

        The only emails I will respond to from this point, are those who can produce the EVIDENCE of which I challenged you christians on. EVIDENCE is NOT something you read in a book. Anyone can write anything, put it in book form, and call it truth. Until the EVIDENCE is placed on the table for all to see, it is no more than hearsay.

        To the conscious brothas/sistas, feel free to reach out.

      • Well sir,
        Your retoric stonewalling has brought us here, you have again given a question, that has answer, but you do not like the answer. The evidence, the proof, is there for those who will recieve it. The insinuations of stupitity and such, seem to say that you wish to have your own society, that thinks like you do. Well, good luck with that. A few questions though, I like to ask my cult leader debatees, first, where do want to take the people who think like like you? What is your purpose, whats you motivation? Are you angry? If so, at who? do you want these people who think like you to be angry too. And finally, what is your goal? Other than to prove you can insult others who freely choose there beliefs in an age where the information of every faith in exsistance and its roots is availible to those who search? But as history has shown hateful cults, that lambast, and insult others over their precieved ideas, to a fanatic extreme such as yours sir, they never do pan out the way the founder first percieves it, and in the end, they end up commitong suicide or being thrown in jail, or something worse. Do you know why? Because that type of thinking will NEVER be bigger than it’s surronding society. And eventually, a noose will form, and they will be hung by it; they either do it to themselves or it’s done for them; by their cowardness, their anger, or their fear. I wonder what your poison will be? Or perhaps you will think yourself free from that too? Not likely. Come back sir, come back to reality, while you still can. Peace, and God’s speed to you.

      • To help wake folks to this reality we’re urging all (esp. economics majors) to help push this president & congress to pass an execitive or for $ printed free of interest. long live green-backs!

      • How foolish you are. Do not defy someone that is speak the truth

      • So, have you been left behind?

      • You know the bible so well right? Because of dr hagins, I can use the bible itself to sit a Christian down. A religion that’s been in place for this long, and things only get worst, pastors and congratulations only get worst, church is modernized even though it should set itself apart. Your bible says that Jesus was made priest after the “order” of melchizadek. Do some real research on melchizadek. Lastly, I want you all to ponder this scenario. If the “Christian crusades” where to eradicate Jews, and Muslims, and Christ was set as “king of the Jews”……….then where does Christ and Christianity meet? Christ being a Jew, Christians killed Jews(look it up) how is Christ and Christianity the same? your bible you see Jesus the Nazarene. Nazarene it’s another name for the essene cult. Is Nazarene not In the bible? So research then. Essene is also referred to as Meeks or “the meek” the meek who shall inherit the earth. The meek took points, scripture, ritual, and science from all culture’s of the world and combined them, further research will show you the the essene cult can be traced to illuminati bloodline, which by the way the illuminati was never started to be a dark and evil group. They where set up to shield people from new and pressing “religions”. So you know your bible?

      • I too was very sad when I heard Dr. Ray Hagins tell this story about who we are Spiritually and who we think we are according to this Bible. I always sincerely prayed to Our Creator, still do, to let me not worship HIM in vain because I was gifted with a discerning spirit as well as the power in my hands to touch and heal you so where does that come from? Be careful when you refer back to the Bible because you must realize we have been brain washed and our mothers and their mothers were brain washed too, to always refer back to a word given to us by people who hate us! You see they are trying to infiltrate Africa with this European lie telling us (them) in this Bible that God did not want anyone to come before HIM with a flat nose, wow! We have some of the greatest spokesmen and women for Christ Jesus who is being encouraged to continue telling this lie, because right now people will only be able to hear what the Bible tell them to. I cried and I still am crying because if you can see what so called Christians did to a race of people just to steal their knowledge and have what they had and will do anything to stop the truth from being told. Oh but, their is a Creator that made us and them and everything else! We will rise again without having to rely on their words because now we have our own!

      • Hello Ali,

        I am not sure of your reference to Our Father excluding persons with flat noses from his presence. However, the only biblical verse that I am aware of is found in Leviticus 21: 18 (KJV).

        The entire 21st chapter of Leviticus is devoted to the sons of Aaron as members of the Levite priesthood. Therefore, these standards of person appearance do not apply to tribal members in general.

        Moreover, the Hebrew term (charam) translated flat refers to mutilation. To mutilate is to inflict and injury upon. As such, charam has no reference to natural features with which one may be born. Continuing a reference to precluded defects. Superfluous also references mutilations.

        However, the precluded mutilation is of a type that may surprise you. Sara, translated superfluous, speaking against certain physical features continues the Acts 21: 28 exclusion of strangers (particularly Europeans) from the priesthood.

        Why against strangers and Europeans in particular? Sara means to extend or to stretch out. The elongated nose is prohibited, quite the opposite of flat. This feature primarily identifies Europeans.

        Ezekiel 44: 7 continues this prohibition against foreigners entering the priesthood of Levy even in the third temple that is yet to be built in Jerusalem.

        Ray Hagen is like evolution, he has been proven to be a government misinformation agent and consequently a liar so often that only the juvenile or the uninformed could possibly look to him for any measure of truth as it relates to the bible or any other subject of significance.

  1. Being from a Psychological background allows one an advantage in using tools that deceive people. The best route to teach people how to be critical thinkers is to teach the tools of critical thinking. Present your argument then allow them to decide. If you do not feel you can provide the info and let them decide then this means your aim is to control thought.

    Rev Hagin is giving all of these announcements about how black people think too much like Europeans. What is more important is doing the research and presenting it to the people and allowing them to decide if they agree not trying to tell them to stop thinking the way HE feels is best.

    • I need more of this truth, how do I obtain more

    • closed minded individual obviously brain-washed complacent and apparently lives in fear of positive change like so many other

  2. i’m of jamaican brasilian decent. those of you in the know will be aware of the faith/religion that predominantly prevails there. although my parents taught me about black history, there were some parts that were lacking.

    last week i chanced upon mr. ray hagins lecture “THE VERDICT IS IN” some of my suspicions were confirmed and susbtantiated with supllimenary research on my part. discovering these facts were a shocking revelation. it has moved me to seek further knowledge of my true heritage.

    one day i’d like pass on this knowledge to my future offspring. it’s a must. can anyone point in the direction of where one can procure books penned by mr. hagins?

    • WBLR.com he has a 24hr talk radio show with his lectures and you can purchase DVDs as well

    • Hotep

      Greetings beloved Brotha/Sista.

      Yes, I can guide you in the direction of interest. Contact me at blackonyx1259@yahoo.com, and I will link you the information you request.

      Kamal
      Hetepu

  3. i’m of jamaican brasilian decent. those of you in the know will be aware of the faith/religion that predominantly prevails there. although my parents taught me about black history, there were some parts that were lacking.

    last week i chanced upon mr. ray hagins lecture “THE VERDICT IS IN” some of my suspicions were confirmed and susbtantiated with supllimenary research on my part. discovering these facts were a shocking revelation. it has moved me to seek further knowledge of my true heritage.

    one day i’d like pass on this knowledge to my future offspring. it’s a must. can anyone point in the direction of where one can procure books penned by mr. hagins? i would also like to know about the history of nigeria (unedited and altered).

    ps. sorry about the double posting.

  4. Am an african swahili speaker ,i have been listenning to Ray and i say his teachings are very interesting,but i have some issues in reagrds to the truth as he points out.Wheather one adopts religion as he has shown i think its not important because he admits,that this are rituals and rites that were originally african stolen from them,mutulated and then representeed again to africans with european apeal.
    Why i find religion irrelevant wheather its unmutulated or not is because it acts more like police not that cops dont do good job they do but to what exetent?Religion and police are good at enforcing Laws,but am thinking of bigger things where a person has freedom and so him only is all that matters and that is selfrealization,i being one with God,i being master of my own destination,I & I,
    Listen to one OSHO,otherwise Dr Ray has done a good job of liberating those who take religion literaly

  5. Dr. Hagin asserts that Caucasians wrote the Bible. For one who purports to be a leader of his people and a minister of the gospel, tihis belief is amazing. From the very location of the Garden of Eden in the second chapter of Genesis to the description of Christ in the book of Revelation all references to Hebrews reveal that they are black people. On the other hand, all references to Caucasians relate to curses (2 Kings 5: 26-27, Num 12: 10-12, etc.)

    More over the idea that Christ is not a historical personality is refuted by the historian Flavius Josephus who knew Christ personally. According to prophetic time tables it is now time that the Deliverer must come to America (Edom, Ob. 1: 3-4) )to segregate Hebrews from western governments.

    Fear of the arrival of the “Black Messiah” has long motivated government agencies to resort to disinformtion and dissention among blacks in hopes of derailing this prophecy, as they so state in the cointelproprogram.
    Oh, before I forget, I am informed that Dr. Hagin is a special ops agent.

  6. i have came into this truth and learn to always test everything and seek truth for myself and go by what others tell me do research that’s what i do do not let people turn you into any puppets like the slave masters did to our peple africa is a mess today because they have lost their culture. The black race is a mess period thank YAHWEH OR AMENRAH for Ray Hagins he is nothing but knowledge which he gets from the creator above

  7. This is good information!!! Period! Regardless of what you do with it. I have a similar background, COGIC, I have always had questions that people said only God knows the answer to and I would not find out until I get to Heaven, now I know why I was instructed this way! Thanks be to Our God… HOTEP!

  8. Lol who’s more dangerous? The uncle Tom nigger or the negro who chooses to free his mind? Satan sure has a strong hold on black folk minds. EVERYTHING Pastor Hagins addresses has made LOGICAL COHESIVE SENSE! why would he lie? What does he have to gain? Some people so brainwashed they don’t know whether they are coming or going!

  9. I lived and Studied in Kemet. Until those of you who call yourselves christians, board a plane, spend time in Kemet, researching the racist lies ignorant black folk have embraced as truth, all of you need to sit your self-hatred asses down, shut your trap, and stop hating those who are attempting to free you from your self-hatred.
    To the ignorant one who put this together, it would be an honor to have a face to face with you. You are an enemy of Black people. If you are in Ga, lets meet, I will come to you.
    I have no respect for one who will hide behind the internet, like a sissy, tearing those down who care enough to go out in the world, gather the EVIDENCE of the lies you were brainwashed to believe. You can believe something and be 100% wrong.
    Why did you not give this same energy talking about this sissy Obama, who has done nothing for black people. This sissy Obama is playing a key role in murdering blacks in Afrika, which you have no knowledge of.
    If you are a man, stop acting like a sissy. If you have something to say to Brotha Ray, the respectful thing would have been to contact him, personally, instead of attempting to poison his people against him. Yes, I want to have a face to face with you.

    Kamal

  10. Hagin seems to suffer from obsessive compusive disorder, as well as narcissim, as can be clearly diagnosed from his lectures. Not someone you want be adopting doctrine from. Leave him alone. That being said, the devil’s first ploy in getting eve to betray God was to doubt, what He said, therefore proving her lack of knowledge in the word of God, and revealing a manipulative lever to be used, and then revealing, Adam’s improper teaching to his wife, because it was his responsibility to teach her, so that she could be strong in the words of God. And it all started with a seed of doubt, which the devil planted, and Hagin follows this methodology, he’s crafty, but not original. Peace.

  11. This spookism, this religion thing is one of the last mental shackles we as a non-white people have to free ourselves from and it should be expected that it should be the hardest to destroy.

    Until that non-white person is open and willing to do sincere research into African history and the origins about their religious books it will be very very difficult to have informed and constructive dialogue.

    For those that are deep in their religion, please be truthful about the difference when speaking about what you know and what you believe. These two are not the same thing.

  12. Hotep.
    First, we need to refrain from using words which have low vibratory energy. There is no place on earth called negro. But I am aware of Nubia. Second, you can believer something and be 100% wrong. Until the EVIDENCE of what you believe is validated, and supported with FACTS, it has no foundation to rest upon.

  13. people our people are distroyed for lack of knowledge. no one said finding the truth would be easy, that said God is not mocked what we sow or refuse to sow whatever the reason that shall we also reap. we have been lied to lon enough do the research pray for wisdom and a decerning spirit and allow God to lead you to the truth.

  14. join the movement to push this president & congress to pass an executive order for printing $ free of interest. it was the greatest deed of obama’s favorite forefather. long live green-backs.

  15. Thank u for opening my eyer.I just knew I was not a follower.as my ancestors they call them slaves.I have five children an believe u me my first three are males.there father with the help of ne as a mother will knowlege these children with the help of ur teaching so that this generation will,I say break this horrible trend that man had manipulated an torchered my ancestors and my parents and I ,so that we mr kevin rolld and petula burnside of the bahamas will break this horrible trend.starting with my 5 prince an princesses

  16. Interesting how we all want to be free..but to know the truth is freeing indeed. Remember the ones they tell you mess with the scriptures are the SCRIBES! You can read that in Obidiah. As for white, black, Asian ,Well God did create all of us, so are we to say God is prejudice? If you are going to free the Blacks from Bible slavery, then also free the whole people from the LIES of the Satan …FREE THE WHO RACE! NOT THAT ONE SHOULD PERISH BUT ALL SHOULD KNOW THE TRUTH! Selfishness was not a part of the teaching of Jesus but we sure see it not only in whites but in every color of the Rainbow nation.

    • I am responding to what I received in my Email Box.
      If you are not a male sissy your response will not reflect the emotions of a woman, a trait seen more today in males who have become sissified.
      You are either a European or a very disillusioned Negro, devoid of Right Knowledge, in either case, you suffer from what WE call Mental Illness,
      Produce your Evidence” other than what some Racist, Lying GAY Europeans got together and wrote in a book called, the bible. A book of LIES, TRICKOLOGY, and DECEPTION.
      Produce your EVIDENCE some fictional clown called, jesus, existed? Words printed on paper is NOT evidence. Until that which is written is supported with EVIDENCE, its no more than HEARSAY, if that text is being referred to as non-fiction.
      Like all brainwashed christians, never in the His-Story of this Bastard PAGAN religion has anyone, not one person, produced a piece of EVIDENCE showing this FICTIONAL jesus existed. As a matter of fact, the worlds most renowned Biblical European Scholar, he, along with those responsible for keeping these LIES alive, today, have gone on record stating, the bible is a book of LIES, and jesus never lived. These are the same Biblical Scholars who made millions upon millions poisoning the souls of the ignorant with the greatest lie ever told, that The Most High Has a Son, maybe they meant to say SUN,

      • @Kamal, do you try to biing out the bad in people? It is most unhealthy, and I advise against it. Peace.

      • Then what I implied, you must be guilty of. What is Unhealthy is to support something and not know a thing about its toxic foundation. All you Brainwashed Christians do, when you cannot Produce any FACT/EVIDENCE to support this European Invented BS you believe in is, express what I call, FEMALE behavior, pinned up EMOTIONS.
        I am still waiting, produce your NON-EXISTENT Evidence this Fictional jesus existed, and I will give you HARD EVIDENCE, this white European creation never placed a foot on this planet.
        The thing here is, in your complete ignorance, mental illness, and self hatred, you have been programmed to hate yourself and your kind. You love this racist cracker who has you believing in this invented BS.
        PRODUCE ONE PIECE OF CONCRETE EVIDENCE THIS WHITE INVENTION YOU CALL JESUS EXISTED, AND I WILL CONVERT BECOMING A CHRISTIAN THIS VERY DAY. AGAIN, EVIDENCE IS NOT WORDS WRITTEN ON PIECES OF PAPER.
        For the record, I lived in parts of AfriKa for over 3 years. Go to Kemet, discover for yourself, how this racist, evil, lying, European Rapist, stole your story, shit all over it, than gave it back to you, Do that, then come back to Amerikkka talking about jesus, I doubt you will ever mention this clowns name again, at least, not in a positive light.
        But no, you wont spend a dime to go to Afrika, but you will hop your ass on a plane to fly to Europe. Like I said, you Christians all suffer from mental Illness.
        Peace

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  18. I’ve listen to several of Ray Hagin’s messages now, and have investigated what he is saying and what scripture says. I must say, he’s miss leading people with his style of teaching. For example, he’s misleading people when he says, the Bible says the whole world was covered in 15 cubits of water. That’s not what the Bible says, he’s taking words out of context, notice some other translations of the Bible and see exactly what’s there.

    Also, I find it interesting, when Ray Hagin asked the lady reading the scriptures, to read another translation, to see if it says the same thing as the one he was twisting. She was unable too, even with a computer with internet access. Please read and check things out for yourself, don’t take anyone’s word. Do your own research and see if these sayings are true, this is just one of the things I’ve noticed in one message. There are other messages which need to be addressed too, remember this is a matter Truth and Salvation. If you believe Ray Hagin, you have no hope or salvation.

    Please read the scriptures below

    Gen 7: – NKJ
    19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly on the earth, and all the high hills under the whole heaven were covered. 20 The waters prevailed fifteen cubits upward, and the mountains were covered.
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    Gen 7: – NLT
    19 Finally, the water covered even the highest mountains on the earth, 20 rising more than twenty-two feet above the highest peaks.
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    Gen 7: – NABS
    19 The water prevailed more and more upon the earth, so that all the high mountains everywhere under the heavens were covered. 20 The water prevailed fifteen cubits higher, and the mountains were covered.
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    Gen 7: – NIV
    19 They rose greatly on the earth, and all the high mountains under the entire heavens were covered. 20 The waters rose and covered the mountains to a depth of more than fifteen cubits.
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    Gen 7: – ESV
    19 And the waters prevailed so mightily on the earth that all the high mountains under the whole heaven were covered. 20 The waters prevailed above the mountains, covering them fifteen cubits deep.

  19. WHO WAS THERE MEASURE THAT, WAKE UP MY PEOPLE

  20. WHO WAS THERE TOO MEASURE THAT, SOUNDS LIKE A FICTION STORY TO ME, WAKE UP MY PEOPLE

  21. To all you Brothas and Sistas who have Right Knowledge, I say this.

    Leave these foolish, ignorant, NEGRO (a people who need to grow), Brainwashed, SELF HATING (a people who do not care to learn the truth of who they are, embracing what their slave master gave them, jesus) Christians be.

    Today, I do not give these self hating, Melanite Christians a pass. I place their STUPIDITY squarely on their shoulders. Reason, we live in the age of INFORMATION. Anything you care to research can be done from the comfort of your home, all you need is a computer, internet, and some damn common sense.

    Stop wasting your time and energy on these clowns, let them be.

    Direct this energy towards those who WANT TO KNOW, and our youth, that they may NOT grow to be stuck on stupid, as these negro christians are.

    To those who may respond with your horns up, don’t waste your time, I will not respond. I do not entertain STUPID.

    Again, to those of Right Knowledge, Inner and Overstanding, let these fools be. They love this European,, religious fictionalized BS.

    This bible of filth, endorses homosexuality, degrades women, embraces incest, murder, race hate, etc. Let these clowns have this toxic filth. Stop wasting your time on the self hateful ones.

  22. Ray Hagins has been discredited and refuted:

    http://benstanhope.blogspot.com/2013/07/ray-hagins-refuted-arius-and-council-of.html

    • You, white, european masters of lies, deception, and trickology, have always been masterful in poisoning spirits of Melanite People, with your fictional, homosexual,christian, invented religious filth.
      You hateful, white christinas, have gone throughout the world destroying lives of darker people, with your religious lies.

      This is not a matter of Ray proving a thing to you, YOU, the enemies of truth.
      Personally, I would not entertain you. The reason I am doing this NOW, is to let you know, you cannot, nor are you invited by ME, to come onto a BLACK SITE, off limits to you, with your white, homosexual, religious, christian filth, in attacking one of mine.That’s for me to do, If I deem it necessary.

      You, who have stolen, and continue to steal everything you have, from the original, darker, Melanite People of this planet. You who have committed genocide on the melanite people, the Mongolians (So-called natives of America (MUU) ). I can name islands, and continents of DRKER people you have committed genocide on. Today you are in Afrika committing mass murder. Therefore, YOU should never feel a level of comfort in addressing MY PEOPLE on any subject matter. You damn Murderers.

      In your arrogance, you feel you have the right to tell MY people, if they do not embrace your HOMOSEXUAL, religious BS, they are are not going to heaven. Your definition of heaven is, white male beast, going up into each others rectum. And today, my people have embraced your barbaric filth, which is your true nature.

      Everything about you is a LIE. By what means of mutation, genetic experiment, performed on you, by US, is responsible for your evil existence?
      You sold us on this BS story about some mans rib, being responsible for woman’s creation. Who was there to see this take place? Who was there to see your white DOG (GOD) create anything? Give me some names. As I stated, everything about you is a damn lie.

      You have been able to trick the M-Asses. I am NOT a member of that all exclusive club of fools, believing in your Biblical stories of fiction.
      You Biblical stories, not one person mentioned in this book of lies, can you produce the EVIDENCE to support their having lived, Show me a Burial Site, you have NOTHING, but stories.

      Evidence is not words printed on pieces of paper, that’s called heresay.
      To believe in anything means you are ignorant. You can believe something and be 100% wrong.

      EVIDENCE, produce it, and keep that fictional book of yours, the bible, closed, that proves nothing, someone saying, what someone did, that’s not Evidence.

  23. You, white, european masters of lies, deception, and trickology, have always been masterful in poisoning spirits of Melanite People, with your fictional, homosexual,christian, invented religious filth.
    You hateful, white christinas, have gone throughout the world destroying lives of darker people, with your religious lies.

    This is not a matter of Ray proving a thing to you, YOU, the enemies of truth.
    Personally, I would not entertain you. The reason I am doing this NOW, is to let you know, you cannot, nor are you invited by ME, to come onto a BLACK SITE, off limits to you, with your white, homosexual, religious, christian filth, in attacking one of mine.That’s for me to do, If I deem it necessary.

    You, who have stolen, and continue to steal everything you have, from the original, darker, Melanite People of this planet. You who have committed genocide on the melanite people, the Mongolians (So-called natives of America (MUU) ). I can name islands, and continents of DRKER people you have committed genocide on. Today you are in Afrika committing mass murder. Therefore, YOU should never feel a level of comfort in addressing MY PEOPLE on any subject matter. You damn Murderers.

    In your arrogance, you feel you have the right to tell MY people, if they do not embrace your HOMOSEXUAL, religious BS, they are are not going to heaven. Your definition of heaven is, white male beast, going up into each others rectum. And today, my people have embraced your barbaric filth, which is your true nature.

    Everything about you is a LIE. By what means of mutation, genetic experiment, performed on you, by US, is responsible for your evil existence?
    You sold us on this BS story about some mans rib, being responsible for woman’s creation. Who was there to see this take place? Who was there to see your white DOG (GOD) create anything? Give me some names. As I stated, everything about you is a damn lie.

    You have been able to trick the M-Asses. I am NOT a member of that all exclusive club of fools, believing in your Biblical stories of fiction.
    You Biblical stories, not one person mentioned in this book of lies, can you produce the EVIDENCE to support their having lived, Show me a Burial Site, you have NOTHING, but stories.

    Evidence is not words printed on pieces of paper, that’s called heresay.
    To believe in anything means you are ignorant. You can believe something and be 100% wrong.

    EVIDENCE, produce it, and keep that fictional book of yours, the bible, closed, that proves nothing, someone saying, what someone did, that’s not Evidence.

    • You know what ‘kamel’ I bet you like hip hop too don’t you?
      you love you some russell simons driven ‘kali cult reborn hip hop lifestyle don’t you? you love ‘em don’t you? jay z and the rest of those pagans, and I bet you think that it is all just music, you know you are apart of alll that dont you, you sit on this site trying to ‘open our minds’ when all you are is some nasty cult driven crazy person yourself. take your pagan thug life lovin filthy doctrin and go back to the spawn which birthed you, We don’t need any proof when it comes to you because you are the proof that evil exists ithe world, you filthy nasty thing you have rejected the Holy spirit, and there no moe remedyfor what ailes you. you condem yourself.

      • To the woman, or male sissie who addressed me regarding Hip Hop.
        I would be as stupid as you, if I sat here entertaining your female, emotional BS

        I leave you with this, stupid is as stupid does.

        As a woman, or male sissie, which ever you are, your are NOT to address me.

        Stay in your lane.

  24. To the woman, or male sissie who addressed me regarding Hip Hop.
    I would be as stupid as you, if I sat here entertaining your female, emotional BS

    I leave you with this, stupid is as stupid does.

    As a woman, or male sissie, which ever you are, your are NOT to address me.

    Stay in your lane.

    • ‘Kamel’ I find the more close the truth comes to you pagans, the more insulting you become. You need obey your own accord and say nothing more. Go satisfy your African pagan love lust on your own, people ned answers to real life issues, were going to dressed up in dashikees andstart beliving in your hell-born doctrine, And i don’t need to worry about gettig i your ‘lane’, because you went off the side off the road a long time ago, you just don’t know it yet. But you will, oh yes, you pagan lust having nut-job, you will.

      • CORRECTION: we’re NOT going to dressed up in dashikees and start beliving in your hell-born doctrine..

    • Kamal,
      I resonate with everything that you’re saying. What do you mean when you say “female emotional bs”? You know all too well when dealing with “negro” Christians, you’re dealing with hundreds of years of brainwashing that has been passed down. I rebelled against Christianity since age 12. I told my parents that I will not be going to church anymore because I feel the pastor/preacher has been manipulating the congregation to give big money to the church. I’m glad you are that strong enough to speak the truth. I’ve been shunned from my so- called christian family because I started to ask too many questions and was told not to “doubt” the bible. My so- called aunt even went as far to justify the slavery in the bible! I feel that these people are dangerous to the rest of us that seek the truth. These people will defend the oppressors who put our ancestors in slavery. The ancestors must be turning and twisting with what some of the younger generations have done in order for fame and fortune. To those that have done so, and to help further the ignorance in our younger people, you will pay dearly. You can’t buy your way out of what’s coming to you. Kamal, do you do motivational speaking? I have the feeling that you would make an excellent speaker, because you definitely have my attention! Have you written any books, etc. I would love to hear you speak!. Our genius children are being dumbed down and we need people that will stand up for the truth, no matter how raw it is! Blessings to you and yours…

  25. If our so called “brotha” did go to Africa and had a moving experience, he should have given them the gospel of Jesus Christ because it is the “power of God” unto salvation to the Jew first and also to the Gentiles. But only a person whose life has been changed by the transforming power of God can understand this or believe it. It is obvious that Ray Hagins had never been born-again, and his problem is like so many people I know, they have been following religion, but not biblical Christianity. Pray for our “brotha” that he will experience the “new-birth” by the power of the Holy Spirit in his life.

  26. Ignorance is so rampant. Reaction to the truth is a funny thing to watch.

  27. What Is Noonebu Philosophy?

    • All ‘ Noonebu’ is, is just some other wierd patchwork copy of Kabbalah. But people will buy into anything these days.

  28. Who are you quickquote? If you knew the Bible you will know that the so called Moses and Aaron were the ones that told the blind, the crippled, crazy and yes the people with flat noses that they could not go before God! That is in Leviticus! It is people like you that will try to confuse folk to not listen to the truth! Because Black folk know nothing else. I know the truth and guest what I am still under the Lying European doctrines!

    • Ali,

      The Bible is a comprehensive work. I notice that you did not cite the chapter or verse that you attribute to Moses and Aaron. But I am sure that you are referring to Leviticus 21: 18. Leviticus 21: 1 tells you that these are standards intended for the priesthood, the Levites, not for the common tribesmen.

      Moreover, if you will refer to my initial response to your erroneous accusation, you’ll find that flat nose is actually the opposite of what the translation originally stated.

      The translators substituted flat nose for long nose (the European feature). It would be rather ludicrous to tell black men that they cannot be priests if they had flat noses.

      I hope that this response is beneficial.

      • Hey quickquote, do you really think there was a Moses who ran from the Egyptians and God parted the Red Sea? That story is a fabricated lie according to the craving and literature of Ancient Kemet (Egypt). Hebrew and Greek scholars stole the literature, precious stones and jewelry, as well as the people to write this Bible story we have today to keep Blacks in Bondage so they will not be able to tell the true story about the one an only true Creator God in Heaven. Afrikans are the only people world wide who are still in bondage through that Biblical lie called the Holy Bible, used to keep them looking down on who they are, and never to get past thinking they are savages, nomads when the Europeans were the ones who made them the way they are by taking away their way of life. Killing them daily an using their very own people to do it. No work, no water, bad health, so even our Afrikan people in Africa have to depend on those white faces going over their to feed them a little food to continue to brain wash them with that religious lie about Jesus and his disciples. Wow!

      • Ali,

        I think you switched your issue. I responded to your allegation that the Bible precludes black people from worship. Let us agree that that is a misconception. Then we can move on to your next error.

        My question is what do you think qualifies you to assert that the Bible is not a historical text. In the academic community the validity of a text is often determined by the number of times that it is reprinted. I think that puts the Bible in a category of truth all by itself.

        If you were an expert on the KJV Bible text you would be ashamed to allege that anyone wrote the Bible other than black men. Why would a European tell the world that the Garden of Eden was located on the Nile River?

        Moreover, Genesis 2: 10-14 yields the African locale of the Garden of Eden. Specifically, Giychown translated Gihon in Genesis 2: 13 means Nile. If you question the biblical accuracy, visit the area sometimes. You will find that there are four tributaries of the Nile even today, and one branch yet runs through Ethiopia

        If you were better informed about ancient Kemet you might also know that it is mythical to attribute the architecture of the Giza pyramid and the Sphinx to Kemet. But that is another story.

        My point is, if you really are interested in biblical history, you will need a better source than the Scoffer (Ray Hagen). He is a paid liar, but I have another question for you. What lie are you referring to in your following statement? Only people who do not know the Bible could allege that the text keeps blacks in any type of bondage.

        “Afrikans are the only people world wide who are still in bondage through that Biblical lie called the Holy Bible, used to keep them looking down on who they are, and never to get past thinking they are savages, nomads when the Europeans were the ones who made them the way they are by taking away their way of life.”

        Did you know that King James I and VI, after whom the Bible is named was a black man, who translated the writings of his Hebrew fathers into English at the peril of his life to preserve an accurate record for his people of their history?

        I think that you have the Christian religion confused with the Bible. There has been much energy vested in fostering that delusion. If you would like to clear up the misconception, please read “Searching for the Church”. It can be found on Amazon.

        As a matter of curiosity, what is your impression of the Koran?

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